Let me begin by expressing my deep gratitude to Dr. David Ragazzoni for his energy and persistence in organizing this forum, and especially to my distinguished interlocutors, eminent experts all, for their serious and stimulating engagement with a very long book containing a great deal of unfamiliar material. No author could hope for greater generosity. Each of the responses in this forum has helped me see how readers from different points on the scholarly compass converge on the concept of humanist virtue politics. Collectively, they have made me think hard about the value of virtue politics, both in the Renaissance and today. Above all, they have made me consider the charge that virtue politics was a failure in the Renaissance (as Machiavelli believed) and that its revival in any form today would be inadvisable and possibly even harmful to democratic governance (as two of its critics in this forum suggest).Professor Ryan Balot makes several excellent points about the differences between ancient and Renaissance virtue theory as it applies to politics. In classical Athens and Sparta, regimes were aimed at different tele that required different kinds of virtue. In order to produce the kind of virtue that would achieve the telos of a given polis, whether freedom or military dominance or wealth, the regime itself had to take on an educational role. Different regimes had distinctive forms of education—the Athenians had their paideia and the Spartans their agōgē—but they also continued, via participation in political life, to train adults in the moral arts of self-government. By contrast, the virtue politics of the Renaissance appears to Balot to be "bookish."The teaching of virtue in the Renaissance was certainly more generic and more bookish. The texts taught in humanist schools were pretty much standard: Aristotle's Ethics and Politics, Xenophon's Hiero, Isocrates's Cyprian Orations, and Cicero's De officiis and De legibus were the ones most important for politics. Most Renaissance educators did not work out special curricula for different regimes, though they did produce them for different professions, like artists (Leon Battista Alberti), military officers (Roberto Valturio) or musicians (Johannes Tinctoris). The greatest teachers took in students from all over Italy and Europe, young men who had careers before them in kingdoms and republics, the Church and the Empire. The kind of education famous schoolmasters like Guarino of Verona or Vittorino da Feltre gave could not be regime-specific. However, the movement I've called virtue politics was not merely bookish, confined to men and women of letters. The chief theorists of virtue politics, apart from Petrarch, were not retired literary men or teachers in philosophical schools (like Plato and Aristotle and the scholastics) but high-level officials and diplomats like the Florentine chancellors Coluccio Salutati and Leonardo Bruni, papal secretaries like Biondo Flavio, and even major political figures such as Giovanni Pontano, prime minister of the kings of Naples.Balot is certainly correct to say that humanist virtue politics was not regime-specific. However, I don't think it's quite right that the teaching of virtue was entirely indifferent to regime type or that Renaissance humanists cared only for the education of elites. True, the great medieval manual of political education, Giles of Rome's De regimine principum (1277/80), was directed at all civic leaders (principes) indifferently, though Giles himself preferred monarchy over the power-sharing arrangements of popular communes. Petrarch's works on educating princes, however, were aimed more narrowly at turning tyrants into virtuous princes or preventing young princes from becoming tyrants. Leonardo Bruni tried to show that virtue politics could be adapted to republics, and indeed argued that republics with virtuous citizens were better governed than principalities. By the time we get to Francesco Patrizi of Siena in the 1460s, as I show in my new book, we have a humanist who designs an educational system specifically to produce well-educated citizens of good character who can serve as republican magistrates and on citizen committees. Patrizi wrote a second treatise on the education of princes (1483/84) that presents the same basic curriculum but adapted for the needs of princely rule.1Balot suggests that Renaissance virtue politics was not really politics at all since it did not side in a partisan way with one particular regime type: it was supra partes. I agree with this assessment up to a point, but it should be noted out (as Gabriele Pedullà does in his brilliant Machiavelli in Tumult), that pre-Machiavellian polities was "ideologically holistic," and regarded partisanship as tantamount to sedition.2 In republican Venice you could be tried and executed for questioning the Venetian regime or publicly, outside the councils of government, opposing any of its acts. Tongues in Florence wagged more licentiously than elsewhere, but this was regarded as a moral weakness of the community and not valued as "free speech." I would amend Balot's point to say that humanist virtue politics was not political, but only in the modern sense of that word. Debate could be vigorous in the councils of government, and that is where virtue was supposed to shine out, but for the whole city to engage in disorderly partisan strife was regarded as a disgraceful and dangerous.Balot's point is also well taken that the laws and institutions of classical Greek city-states were more integrated with their soulcraft than was the case in Renaissance states. As I describe in Virtue Politics, there was a centuries-long tradition of rivalry between legal and literary education that only intensified in the quattrocento, and this may account in part for the relative lack of integration between elite education and regime type in the Renaissance period. All powerful states wanted to have their own universities, for example, but young gentlemen continued to seek out the few really prestigious ones, mostly outside the borders of their home states. Some humanists followed the naïve view of Isocrates that the regime type didn't matter so long as the competent and just ruled (Panathenaicus 132).Early modern states on the whole regarded laws as regulative and punitive rather than educative. Political institutions could become training grounds for civic leaders, but not, as a rule, for the average citizen. Medieval communes encouraged popular participation in politics but Renaissance humanists, with their meritocratic bias, did not think the many-headed had much to offer to the councils of the wise. The humanists here invoked the practice of the Roman republic, which did not encourage deliberation in its popular assemblies. Cicero praises this as a point of Roman superiority over the Greeks (Pro Flacco 15–17), that the Greeks allowed ordinary citizens to engage in political shouting matches while seated in theaters, while the Romans insisted that deliberation should take place in an orderly way among the wise and experienced, in the Senate house. The people should be quietly herded into voting pens on the Campus Martius to record their votes, but not asked to express their opinions in public. In this way (said Cicero in Laws 3.39) the people could be made content with the libertatis species, the appearance of liberty. If some commoner were to show merit and practical wisdom he could always be taken into the ruling group (a practice sociologists call "sponsored mobility"). This was in general the practice of Renaissance republics too: deliberation was confined to the well informed, whereas the people in their councils were only allowed to vote up or down on legislation formulated by their betters. Guicciardini wrote in his Ricordi that the Florentine people had less idea of what was going on in the public palace than they had of what was done in India.To regulate the behavior of the people the Romans relied less on paideia and political participation than on religion. This was also the case with Renaissance republics. The role of religion in improving the behavior of the common people leads to a key point that also bears on the question of the utility of virtue politics today. Balot opens the window onto a major insight when he suggests that the huge gulf between ancient and modern virtue politics can be explained above all by the dominant position of Christianity in premodern Europe. This, I think, is exactly right. Once Christianity becomes the established religion of the Roman empire in the fourth century CE, and a fortiori once we have the peculiar situation of medieval Christianity, where the temporal and spiritual goods of the population are overseen by separate authorities, each with its distinctive hierarchy and legal system, the old perfectionism of the ancient city-state is simply inconceivable. (In practice, of course, it had been dead for centuries.) The view of Aristotle that man is a political animal who achieves his full flourishing through self-rule in a polis is no longer tenable, at least by orthodox Christians. Human beings now are said (and by canon law as well as by Aquinas) to have both a natural and a supernatural end. Human politics can have at best an instrumental role in achieving our highest end, salvation in a future life.This was a point generally accepted by humanists, who quite often depended on the patronage of the Church for their livelihood. What they developed was a kind of moderate perfectionism (a term I borrow from the Confucian theorist Joseph Chan). The telos of the state for them is more limited. In the version theorized by the movement's greatest political philosopher, Francesco Patrizi of Siena, the state should aim at achieving concrete human goods in this life: peace, security, justice, social harmony, prosperity, and a desirable way of life. The humanists believed that virtue education of both princes and citizens could help achieve these ends. They thought that the moral character and practical wisdom of political leaders and citizens could be improved, and that would lead to better government. Cultivating the classical virtue of pietas might even improve the practice of religion.Now I admit to believing that an education in the traditional humanities might still be of benefit to political life today, but I don't think (as Balot suggests) that there is any necessary linkage between virtue politics and a public world shaped either by Christian or liberal-individualist principles. Balot, if I am reading him correctly, seems to think that education in democracies should be more regime-specific, as it was in antiquity, which would mean, I suppose, more civic education in democratic principles and more citizen participation. I take him to be preferring ancient to Renaissance models of paideia in something like a communitarian spirit, as more fitting to modern liberal-democratic and republican traditions. He seems to associate humanist virtue politics, by contrast, with modern procedural liberalism, indifferent to any conception of the good life, and implies that it can do less to support democracy given its compatibility with multiple regime types. These include (as I point out in chapter 17 of Virtue Politics) an absolutism unconstrained by any constitutional limits at all.These are deep waters and I hesitate, as a mere historian, to wade into them. I do agree with Pareto that all government is oligarchical in the sense that all government implies the rule of a few over many. I think this was true even of Athens in its most democratic period in the late fifth century BC. The important questions are whether political elites are closed or open to merit (as the humanists advocated), and whether they are constituted by decent people of good character who accept a duty of care towards the poor and the powerless. Modern democracies are nothing like ancient ones and in practice resemble oligarchies; and they are yearly becoming less liberal. In modern Western societies small groups of the wealthy and powerful dominate government, the economy, and the wider culture (while talking incessantly of equality). It is still possible and, in my view, highly desirable to have a democratic check on ruling elites, but I believe, with the humanists, that, as things now stand, the best way to improve our governments is to improve our governors. The advantage of humanist virtue politics is that it is potentially compatible with modern pluralistic societies where citizens profess many faiths, including scientism and secular humanism, but also share common political institutions. For those institutions to function well, we need our societies to share a least a few common principles of practical reason—what Justus Lipsius called a civil wisdom—as well as common models of what constitutes civilitas in Suetonius' sense (Augustus 51–56), that is, the correct comportment of citizens. These standards are most likely to be widely accepted when derived from common traditions and from teaching common classical texts (not necessarily those of Greco-Roman antiquity).Reading Prof. Michelle Clarke's comments brought to mind one way in which humanist virtue education could make—and has in fact made—a beneficial contribution to modern pluralistic societies: namely, through its careful attention to precision of language and eloquence. Clarke takes seriously, I think, Machiavelli's critique of humanist eloquence: that when humanists read texts, their obsession with correct latinity and their practice of hunting for examples of fine conduct blinded them to what the ancients, above all the Romans, actually did to achieve political success. Machiavelli did not read Livy to polish his Latin or for moral improvement in the conventional humanist way, but to see what actually made the Romans great, which for him was their militarized society, their readiness to go to war, and their regular practice of using terror and fraud to win empire.3As Clarke points out, the humanists believed, beginning with Petrarch (and following Cicero), that good speech was important because it made men better. To attempt to find the most correct and powerful words to express one's thoughts forced a speaker to examine his own character and desires and to relate them to his audience and to the particular situation in which he was making his case. These were the circumstantiae of classical rhetoric. That is why an orator-statesman has to be a vir bonus dicendi peritus (Quintilian's report of Cato the Elder's ideal). It is the desire to be, and to be considered, a good man by his hearers that makes a man truly eloquent. The truly eloquent man thus will advocate a course of action that is good for the whole republic and the common good. Machiavelli, with his cynical view of human moral potential, thought the ancient and humanist ideal of eloquence was naive and likely to lead to poor statecraft.I would like to develop a couple of points here that are relevant to humanism's utility in modern democratic societies. The humanists (like Cicero) valued eloquence in part because it offered an alternative to violence. The "good man skilled in speaking" could (as Isocrates and Cicero argued) create social harmony through persuasion. This required his audience to be persuadable, meaning both rational and brought up to value the right things in the right way, to have educated thoughts and emotions. In other words, the humanist ideal of eloquence implies an educated citizenry. It should be no surprise that Francesco Patrizi of Siena was, I believe, the first writer in Western history to call for all citizens in a republic to be literate (and in Latin!). Sophisticated users of language (as Clarke notes) are also better able to judge the character of political leaders, which reveals itself in speech.Humanists like Patrizi criticized the scholastics for relying too much on "tortured" logical proofs. Scholastic dialectic, he wrote, "seems more to extort (extorquere) what it tries to prove, and by certain abrupt speeches drags us into [the speaker's] own way of thinking, and it compels us to confess things in words which we by no means assent to in mind." Humanist oratory is more civil, "because it draws minds towards one's will in a softer way, by persuasion and dissuasion." Severe logic may appeal to those living in religious orders, he writes, but ordinary human beings, those who live in civil society, require "gentler belief" (mitior opinio), which indulges our softer mores. "For those harder arguments are more suited to contemplation than to action and cannot easily persuade readers, but through shrewd argumentation extort (extorquent) confessions that those beliefs are true rather than [producing voluntary] assent to them." They might dazzle for a moment, but soon the undertow of the audience's prepossessions and social commitments will cause them to lapse back into its customary beliefs.In other words, humanist eloquence is better suited to civil society than scholastic logic (or its modern counterpart, the analytic method in philosophy). 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